### 1. Overblikk
Prosjekt med Yevgeniy Dodis, hvor vi ser etter å generalisere resultatene hans til [[Quantum Random Oracle Model]]. Vi regner med at hovedverktøyet for å få dette til blir [[The Compressed-Oracle Technique]], da bevisene ikke krever reprogrammering, men belager seg tungt på lazy sampling.
### 2. Materiale til [[Forskningskø]]
#### Leseliste
1. [C:CDKT19 - Seedless Fruit is the Sweetest: Random Number Generation, Revisited](https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/198)
2. [EC:SFHL20 - On the Compressed-Oracle Technique, and Post-Quantum Security of Proofs of Sequential Work](https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/1305)
3. [C:Zhandry19a - How to Record Quantum Queries, and Applications to Quantum Indifferentiability](https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/276)
4. [ITC:BouGrilVer23 - Quantum security of subset cover problems](https://eprint.iacr.org/2022/1474)
5. Stephanie Wehner et al.'s [Quantum to Classical Randomness Extractors](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1111.2026)?
#### Neste steg
- [x] Finn tid til å møte Yevgeniy neste uke (U24).
- [ ] 🎓 Lag github-repo, og inviter Yevgeniy.
- [ ] 📱 Hør med Yevgeniy om nytt møte (og beklag den lange ventetiden). Ditto Varun.
#### Nylig
1. Leste slidesene Yevgeniy sendte, og oppdaterte leseliste.
2. Inviterte [Varun](https://varun-maram.github.io) til å bli med på møtet neste uke (U24), når enn det blir.
### 3. Møter
**Møte 1:** [[12024-06-28]]
- Quantum attacker produces classical source with quantum side information.
- We have to define what it means that the source has entropy dependent to quantum RO queries.
- 1st dimension: does the attacker have quantum side-information or not? Probably the answer is yes.
- a) No: meaning A1 is classical. Because intuitively A1 models nature and A2 models the attacker. Then we know how to define min-entropy and stuff.
- b) Yes*: A1 is quantum but makes only classical ROM queries. Imagine quantum source, but SHA is only called by classical algorithms. Could say A1 is quantum nature.
- c) Yes: A1 is fully quantum. Could apply to quantum RNGs? (... Only if they are imperfect/noisy? Even more realistic ofc.)
- d) Yes*: A1 is quantum and makes superposition queries, but state $\Sigma$ has to be passed to *classical* A2.
- 2nd dimension: A1 makes classical or quantum queries to RO?
- 3rd dimension: Is A2 classical or quantum?
- a) Classical: Composes with classical $\Sigma$ (1a, 1d). 1a+3a = the previous work.
- b) Quantum A2, definitely makes quantum RO queries. Possibly gets classical. Composes with 1a-1d.
- 4th dimension: q2 polynomial or unbounded. (Computational vs I.T.)
- a) If q2 is unbounded and A1 is classical, then it doesn't matter if A2 is classical or quantum, and this is already equivalent to previous result
- b) If A1 is quantum, then it seems plausible that previous result still holds, but need to check.
- There are some interesting existing counterexamples from a decade ago where security would be broken if attacker is quantum. Find? Or just folklore?
- Find out what is the appropriate notion of min-entropy in the quantum world? Find out and (gently) present to Yevgeniy.
- 2ndly he wants me to teach him [[The Compressed-Oracle Technique]].
- TO-DO:
- 1: Write all meaningful combinations of the 4 dimensions ($\leq 16$ in total) and see what is already covered by previous work, and what settings remain to be explored.
- 2: Solve all in to-do 1 with monolithic RO, see if there are any surprises.
- 3: See if we can solve for non-monolithic, online extractors.
- Q1: How to define $H^{\text{quantum}}_\infty\{X | \Sigma, L \}$
- Looking for an existing notion of min-entropy to generalize. Maybe this paper by Stephanie Wehner would be a good starting point. See equation 14, page 9: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1111.2026
- What about classical min-entropy conditioned on quantum queries? Does it make sense?
- Interesting paragraph:
- ![[Pasted image 20240628174419.png]]
- these references will be good to look at.
- "This paper might be a little bit of an overkill." (Not sure I agree—we might need the entire formalism.)
- Look at [82]: Ta-Shma, "Short seed extractors against quantum storage". Se definition 3.1. "In my opinion this is a little bit restrictive." Is his min-entropy k - n?
- 3.2 Random Access Codes - something to familiarize yourself with
- and [30], Vidick et al.: "Trevisan’s extractor in the presence of quantum side information"
- This actually looks easier to read
- there is an update from 2018, and related work includes a later work from 2012
- Also we don't know if this is the state of the art or not.
- Hold a seminar talk on how to apply the compressed oracle technique?
- Eli
- Has a related paper on quantum extractors actually! https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?tp=&arnumber=10353160
- *And* he is spending the summer working with Zhandry!
- James, one of his post-doc, knows quantum stuff too